Kirk - nutrition is tricky. Because our bodies process things so differently (metabolically), it is hard to find info that is trustworthy. Working in health and nutrition makes it DOUBLEY hard for me to remain sane during this wave of new info - I get emails from USDA/ADA/5aDAY/ FDA/etc listservs, journals, and attend conferences and I am bombarded with one "sound nutrition" message after another. Even Registered Dietitian's argue - and THEY are the supposed experts. Good Luck, Mo. Good info is hard to find. I am such a sceptic that I wonder if the food guide pyramis wasn't totally skewed because of the wheat, dairy, and beef coucils control on the USDA!!!!!