I'd be interested in seeing if there's different results when people vote on principle and who they would like to see win at end as compared to the "electability" of the candidate.
--The_Lex Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:03:40 -0400
Well, Hillary sometimes feels a bit like Joe Lieberman to me; a D.i.N.O as it were, so while I appreciate the feminist karma and really wish the health care thing had happened in the 90s, I'm not enthused about her.
Obama... honestly I don't know much about his platform. Is it shallow to say, yeah, I think it would be cool to have a black guy as president?
I also don't feel that badly about Giuliani, who seems pretty down to earth to me. I like the way he's weathered some "scandals" in his personal life, and in general feels more like a true moderate; maybe even a bit left of where Hillary puts herself.
But still, I think "electability" is a valid concern, representing compromise in a positive sense, not as a term for capitulation.
--Kirk Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:20:32 -0400
I had a decent opinion of Guliani until the Republican Convention in 04. Overall his positions are not as corrosive as Bush's, but I lost most of my respect for him as he trotted one more trite fearmongering neo-conism after another. Seriously, check the tape, he's a Bush stooge.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zmdl_zUg-xwFull transcript here:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/convention2004/rudygiuliani2004rnc.htm--Mr. Ibis Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:04:11 -0400
Eh, maybe I wasn't paying much attention and am thinking of the old version.
'Course even that guy worked to take out all the smut to make Family Friendly Times Square ala Disney...
--Kirk Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:16:21 -0400